Ep. 8 - Rutherford ROTC (OMC)
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Jerry Tabbatt:With another edition of our military community, so glad to be with you, and I've got a very special show today. We're gonna be talking to some young people about their thoughts about going into the service. In fact, they're already starting to deal with that a little bit, so I'm very happy to have them here. It's all about the junior ROTC program, and that's four letters that a lot of people don't understand. But we're gonna get into it, and we're gonna talk all about it.
Jerry Tabbatt:So let me introduce my guest first of all. To my immediate left then, I have, cadet captain Ariana Harris. Thanks for coming in today.
Guest:Yes, sir.
Jerry Tabbatt:And we have cadet major Tyler White and the gentleman that's in charge of all of this, retired chief master sergeant Dylan Johnson. Thanks to all of you for coming in today. I really really appreciate morning.
Guest:So it morning. It's a it's an honor to be here. So my background, 24 years, in the US Air Force as an aircraft mechanic. I was a crew chief on F 15s, 8 tens and then towards the end of my career had the opportunity to to get on a KC 135
Jerry Tabbatt:platform. And why did you get into ROTC?
Guest:Well, actually, my, my path began, through civil air patrol. I became a character development officer with a local civil air patrol squadron in California, and found it very rewarding to to mentor, young adults. So when the opportunity presented itself to become an instructor, I I jumped at it.
Jerry Tabbatt:The old saying, once in the military, always in the military. Yes, sir. Let's go over you. Tyler, I know you don't have a real extensive background, but, tell me about growing up and what you're what you're thinking about right now.
Guest:I was born and raised here in Panama City. I decided to join JROTC 9th grade, though I was looking at it in 8th grade. I I intend on going into the air force after this, going to FSU, doing their ROTC program there, and then and commissioning as either a pilot or an engineer.
Jerry Tabbatt:Wow. That's some big dreams and goals that that I know working hard you can do. What grade are you getting right now?
Guest:I'm in 11th grade.
Jerry Tabbatt:11th grade. Arianna, what tell me about you.
Guest:I am currently a senior. I'd rather for high school. I was born and raised here in Panama City as well, and I'm actually looking forward to going into the air force as soon as I graduate. And I'm already sworn in, so I'm just ready waiting to go ahead and get a ship off date.
Jerry Tabbatt:Where are you going when you leave here?
Guest:I'm supposed to be going to San Antonio, Texas for basic training.
Jerry Tabbatt:I remember back when I went to basic training, it was in Amarillo, Texas. That's why I'm closed right now. But thank you for, for taking our time to do that too. Alright. Chief, let's start out here.
Jerry Tabbatt:What is Junior ROTC? A lot of people don't understand it, but what is it?
Guest:Yes, sir. So Junior ROTC is, Junior Reserve Officer Training Corps. It is our mission is to develop citizens of character dedicated to serving their nation and community. So we do that, at Rutherford High School through set curriculum from Air University. We teach aerospace science, we teach leadership education, and we teach a wellness component as well.
Guest:But I think most of the students would agree that, most of the fun and enjoyment, the camaraderie building that they experience happens outside of the classroom. We do a lot of things in the community, a lot of community service events, and that's where the the cadets really get together and kinda to grow that bond.
Jerry Tabbatt:And what right now, first of all, how many people do we have in the ROTC? And by the way, this this is not just Rutherford alone that has it. There's ROTC and all and all of our schools.
Guest:Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Most of the major public high schools in Bay County have a ROTC program, which is fantastic. We're blessed that we have such great support from our principal doctor Todd Mitchell at Rutherford High School, but also the support that we get from Bay County. Our local partners, people in the community, the parents, veterans organizations such as the VFW, the American Legion.
Guest:We wouldn't be able to do this without their their tremendous support. But right now in our program, we have 90 4 cadets. Right. So, that's that's over 10% of the population, on campus is a member of our program. So that kind of ebbs and flows throughout the year, but we typically stay around 90 to a 100 cadets throughout the course of the year.
Jerry Tabbatt:It's gotta be trying at times too, doesn't it?
Guest:It's, it it it can be trying, but it's it's also very rewarding. And I'll say that it it's more rewarding than trying, and and to see cadets, you know, come into the program, as as early as 8th grade year, being shy, not really being willing to get up in front of a class and then, you know, lead a, you know, lead a drill competition and lead a flight, and and build that self confidence and see that growth is is tremendously rewarding.
Jerry Tabbatt:Alright. Let's let's get into the nuts and bolts of it right now. Arianna, why did you decide to join ROTC?
Guest:So I initially decided to join ROTCs because my older sister have joined, and I've wanted to out rank her in
Guest:the program.
Jerry Tabbatt:Are you are you outranking her? I outranking her. Good deal.
Guest:But I also wanted to join to to get out of my shyness stage, and which helped me a lot. So now that I'm more confident, I'm able to lead more people, in that what's makes me wanna go into our United States Air Force right now.
Jerry Tabbatt:And you should be so proud of yourself. I'm proud of you. I mean, you know, the Air Force guy myself. But how has the other students at Rutherford accepted you as being part of the Junior ROTC program?
Guest:I feel like they accepted it well. It especially, like, when they see what we do out in the community, out around school, it makes them want to join us, especially younger kids in, like, 6th or 7th grade. When they hit 8th grade year, they'll be they'll be like, oh, yes. This is something I would like to do. And immediately in 8th grade year, they would join our program, and they would stick out with us until they graduate.
Jerry Tabbatt:Good deal. Tyler, why'd you decide to join?
Guest:I originally joined because not only was my older brother in JRTC about 4 years ago, I wanted to have a very active high school career and that I have had.
Jerry Tabbatt:How have you been accepted by the other students?
Guest:My friends particularly, they're a little iffy about it. But generally, other students, they see us as better, like, better behaved, more responsible people.
Jerry Tabbatt:Ariana, you've gotta be proud of what you're doing.
Guest:Yes, sir. Of course. I am. And, also, my parents and all my friends are proud of me as well. They've been supportive of me since my first decision to join the Air Force and being an ROTC.
Guest:And all the leadership roles I have gotten since I was an ROTC, they've been proud of me for actually stepping up and willing to actually put myself out there and to be more confident in what I've been.
Jerry Tabbatt:Chief, listening to these 2 right here talk about why they joined and how proud they are to be, how does that make you feel?
Guest:It it really it's very rewarding, to know this is my 2nd year in the program. But just in the last year, to now to see the the growth that these 2 have had, I mean, they're 2 of the top leaders within the program. And that's to to to see that growth in our students, to to know that we're we're making an impact, you know, myself and Major Bass, who's the senior aerospace science instructor. To to to just see that, it's it's so rewarding. I I I can't put it into to words, really.
Guest:It's it's not a monetary, thing that we do. The the real, reward is to is to see that growth and know that we're taking strides and helping them achieve the goals that they wanna achieve and and become these citizens of character.
Jerry Tabbatt:Tyler, let me ask you. When you get up in the morning, get ready for school, what are you thinking about, and how do you feel putting that uniform on and stepping out the front door of your house headed to school?
Guest:I'm thinking about, all the responsibilities I have. I really enjoy doing the work that I do with JRTC. When it comes to putting on the uniform, I really enjoy it. It makes me feel more confident in myself. This uniform obviously looks very nice.
Guest:Overall, I have a very positive mindset about JRTC, and it's helped me in my academic career very, very much.
Jerry Tabbatt:Gives you discipline, doesn't it?
Guest:Yes, sir.
Jerry Tabbatt:Arianna, I had the same question to you. When you get up in the morning, get ready for school, get ready to walk out the door with that uniform on, how do you feel?
Guest:I feel honored to be able to wear this uniform so proudly around the school. It makes me feel like I have the responsibility of taking care of my cadets in my program and other people around the school that actually that would need help with anything. I feel like me wearing this uniform, it'll make them feel like as if they can come to me with anything they need. And it also helps me, like Tyler said, with my academics performance. Right.
Guest:It makes me wanna do better than what I know I can do.
Jerry Tabbatt:That is so you guys are amazing young ladies and gentlemen talking like that. Dylan, Rutherford itself, what have you seen working over now on your 2nd year? How is the response to the junior ROTC program there? I I may not I of course, you've got some of them that say that's a bunch of garbage, but overall, what's the response, and is everybody willing to help one another there?
Guest:Like I said, our principal is amazing, with his support. Our administrators are amazing with their support. We feel very supported, by our faculty, and our administrators and our principal at Rutherford High School. When it comes to students, I think there's, you know, some apprehensiveness Sure. Initially because a lot of younger kids maybe associate that with, okay.
Guest:If I join JROTC, then that means I have to go to the military, which is not the case at all. But I think that our students do a great job job whenever they represent the program, whenever they wear that uniform around campus. We hold them to a higher standard. And there's expectations that they need to meet because they're they're representing, you know, the military whether they choose to to join it or not. And they do so willingly.
Guest:It's a volunteer program. We don't force anybody to join. And and so they take on that that higher, you know, standard and those higher expectations. And then when they go into to classrooms, teachers know who the JRTC students are, and other students kinda see that. So, they set the tone.
Guest:The cadets set the tone around campus for the other students to kind of look up to that. And, actually, that's what generates a lot of our recruitment is other kids seeing that and saying, hey. I wanna be a part of something special.
Jerry Tabbatt:Then that's so good. Arianna, I'm gonna ask you this question. We'll kind of alternate back and forth. So nobody says, okay, you're taking all the ladies or all the guys. But you're when you graduate this spring, you're already signed up for the Air Force.
Jerry Tabbatt:Number 1, what job again do you wanna do, and what kind of fears, apprehensions? What do you have in that book?
Guest:Oh, so for right now, I am undecided on what job I want. But I know before I graduate, I'll know what job I want. But the only fear I have right now is just doing this by myself. Because I've always had my family and friends, you know, they're with me and supporting me. But, like, I'm going to a whole different state by myself.
Guest:This is, like, my career that I have to do. So just knowing I have to do it on my own is one of my biggest spirit, but I know I can do it.
Jerry Tabbatt:But one thing I don't want you to forget, you're not gonna be by yourself even when you go to the basic training and go on to your tech school because you got your classmates there. You're all working towards the same goal, and you're gonna be surprised. Yeah. The first couple of days when you get there, you're saying, oh, lord. What did I get myself into?
Jerry Tabbatt:But when you start to to find out what's going on, you're gonna be kept so busy, you're gonna keep learning things, and those doubts are gonna disappear. And it's gonna make you say, wow. What a good deal this is. So don't ever forget that that you're never alone. We're always together.
Jerry Tabbatt:In the military, everybody's military. So, again, you'll do just fine on that. Tyler, you're going to maybe be a engineer or a pilot? What you must have some real big apprehensions going on in your mind right now. Can I or can I not do it?
Guest:I think, personally, that I have the mindset, so I'm able to do it. And that's something that JRTC has taught me. If you are willing to put in the work and have the mindset, you can do it. Now what kind of a
Jerry Tabbatt:pilot do you wanna be? You wanna be a fighter pilot? You wanna fly cargo aircraft? You wanna fly even down the road, Air Force 1, things like that? Which which group would you like to be with?
Guest:I'd like to have my hand at any of them that they'd put me in. I really like fighter pilot not fighter pilots, fighter planes, but cargo planes are pretty cool as well.
Jerry Tabbatt:They're a whole lot different between the 3 of them. By the way, you said you don't know what you want to be. Tell them you want to be an Air Force meteorologist. That's what I always say, which sounds great. Chief, the the Bay District School System, with all of these different units that we have, how supportive are you?
Jerry Tabbatt:And I know Mark McQueen is a great friend of mine, and I'll talk to him here down the road. But he's retired military army general, so he understands what's going on. What kind of support is this bringing to you through the system itself, through Bay District Schools?
Guest:Oh, that's a great question. So, again, I feel very supported. We're we're blessed to be in Bay County. The the support that we get at the high school level and the district level, we're not apprehensive to to bring things up and and ask for any support that we need. So we're very fortunate to have, the the folks in place that are in place to to support us.
Jerry Tabbatt:That is super. But, Tyler, as you continue now and and get through the program at at high school and go on into college, what do you think is probably one of the most important things you can do to start out your first day in college?
Guest:That's a that's a great question. I think doing a little bit of research on the college, figuring out where everything is before 1st day, figuring out what I'll need, how much finances I would need to get there, to live there, and general stuff like that, like figuring out the college.
Jerry Tabbatt:And, you know, Arianna, when you get onto active duty like that, you can still continue your education and get paid for by the air force, which is great. What would you like to or would you like to go on and get a degree in something?
Guest:I've thought about it. I've, wanted to go to college, but I'm undecided on degree because I like I like to do a little bit of everything. I like to do, like, hands on stuff. So me having a degree in one thing is good for me. Yes.
Guest:But, like, I'm not clear of what I want that to be at the moment.
Jerry Tabbatt:And you will figure that out. Dylan, there's so many different things that these young men and women are going through. They're they're talking to this guy. They're talking to their family. They're talking to their friends in school.
Jerry Tabbatt:They're talking to the ROTC people. What are some other areas that these young men and women in the community can talk to different people and say, hey. I got a question about what's the air force? What's this? What's this?
Jerry Tabbatt:What's this? Are there other avenues for them out there?
Guest:Oh, absolutely. And we tried the the best that we can to to expose them to different opportunities to bring people in, to to speak with them, whether it's recruiters, whether it's active duty. I mean, we have fantastic support from the folks over at Tyndall. We have airmen coming in all the time from the 3 25th to come and talk talk to the students and share their experiences, which is, which is fantastic. We've even had parents come in who are prior military, talking about some of their experiences.
Guest:We actually yesterday, was a teacher planning day. We took a field trip, up to to Haney and showed them all the different programs up there that are that are an option for him. And keep in mind that yesterday was a day off for for students. We had over half the program show up in uniform, to to go on that field trip. So, you know, there there are things out there and it's as General Brown, former chief of staff, now chairman, joint chiefs of staff.
Jerry Tabbatt:I had the honor of meeting him, by the way, through a military fantastic
Guest:Fantastic officer. Fantastic man. He had a quote that I'm very fond of. It says young people only will aspire to be what they know about. So the more things that we can show them and and expose them to, the greater opportunity that they're gonna have to to get into something positive and successful.
Jerry Tabbatt:Now, Arianna, what the chief just said about these different people that come in and talk to you and everything, are you a little bit afraid to walk up and say, chief master sergeant or captain or a lieutenant and and actually have a conversation with him? Does that make you feel a little apprehensive, or do you feel comfortable asking?
Guest:I do feel comfortable asking because having talking to chief and major about certain things involving my career, I feel like I will be more calm and more relaxed talking to actual lieutenant or colonel about anything.
Jerry Tabbatt:And that's super same question to you, Tyler.
Guest:I think I'd be pretty comfortable with that. Throughout my 3 years here, I've met a lot of enlisted and a lot of enlisted and a lot of officers, and like Ari said about being around these instructors and our, interns throughout the past couple years. It's really, like it's made the uniform less scary and the rank more familiar. So you don't really look at them as, oh, they're an officer or, oh, they're enlisted. Right.
Guest:It's they're a person.
Jerry Tabbatt:There you go. And that's what you should be looking forward to. Now at the beginning of the program, we talked about different things you guys get to do in the community and everything. I've seen you out at many, many, many different events. What are some of the things you've done, Elrienne?
Guest:So right now, the most events I've been to is for the color guard events. I right now, I am currently the color guard commander.
Jerry Tabbatt:Wow.
Guest:So I participate in the Wounded Warriors events. I participate in veterans parades, Christmas parades. We present colors at that they need us. We will be there, and I'll be there helping my team learn how to properly do it and how to do it better, like, good and stuff like that.
Jerry Tabbatt:You know, you're out there presenting colors. And like I said, I've seen you guys at many functions and everything. How does that make you feel as a young lady getting ready to join the air force? You're just saying a parade down the street or presenting the colors at an at an event. How does that make you feel inside?
Guest:It makes me feel good that the people that the, when we have to go out and present the colors, it makes me feel honored that they picked us to do it and that they're giving us opportunity in getting us more exposed and making us more comfortable in being in front of a lot of people.
Jerry Tabbatt:Tyler, what are some of the things you've done?
Guest:I'm currently the saber team commander, so I commend saber arches.
Jerry Tabbatt:Oh, wow.
Guest:But I also put together a lot of the special teams that we do, like the team that we have for the Warrior Beach retreat. I put that together, and I read the script for their POW MIA table. That is my favorite event. I really enjoy doing that.
Jerry Tabbatt:And that is super and how do you feel? You know, I've been fortunate enough to walk through the Sabre Shields. How does that make you feel? Here you are, young man. You and your partner have your sabers joined and people walking through and showing you the dignity and respect.
Jerry Tabbatt:Does that surprise you?
Guest:It it doesn't shock me at all. It's it feels natural. I really enjoy honoring people who have served our country and even just local communities and stuff. It's it's a really, really good feeling.
Jerry Tabbatt:And I can tell by the look on your faces how proud you are. See, you're sitting over there smiling. It's like you're ready to bust with pride. How does that make you feel to hear what these 2 young people are saying?
Guest:It's it's it's fantastic, you know, to to see, like I said, the the leadership and and the growth that they've had, and they do fantastic things for the program. Like I said, these are 2 of our our most trusted and and highest leaders in the program, and that's not something that was given to them. That's something that they've earned over the the course of their time in JROTC. And we're confident. Major and I are are very confident that Ari is gonna be successful when she goes off to the air force.
Guest:We're confident that Tyler is going to be successful in, you know, in his path to to go into ROTC and become a pilot, because they're coachable. Right? So the the students who are coachable, are are successful, and it's great to to kinda see that come to fruition.
Jerry Tabbatt:You know, Tyler, I'll start with you on this one. Why do you think ROT is so important, not only to you, but to other students to learn about it and for also for you to help educate the community about Junior ROTC program.
Guest:I think the JROTC is very important because the people who go into it, they might go in a little shaky, a little scared, but they come out of it a really, really amazing person. Like, I've seen I've seen people grow from people you might not wanna be around to some of the most amazing people I've ever met. There's there's a lot of growth involved in the program, and it's it's all about mindset.
Jerry Tabbatt:Same question to you, Lorena.
Guest:So it's important to me because it helped build character within, our cadets. It helped them build leadership, help them be able to be comfortable leading, like, a lot of people, like, 20, 30 people. It helped them lead it in and out of ROTC. It helps them, like Tyler said, become great, comfortable. Like, I've seen people come from, like, the most quietest person ever Mhmm.
Guest:To them yelling, saying, alright. Not yelling, but, like, commanding a flight, commanding geo sequences, and stuff like that.
Jerry Tabbatt:And that's what's so important too is the ability to do things like that and the ability to grow and nurture yourselves. Chief, these two young people have a great view on ROTC, and they should have. It's done great for them. Why do you think that even if a student doesn't wanna join the Junior ROTC program, why do you think they should find out about the program?
Guest:Well, I think it's just that that exposure. We're we are a a program that, like you said, we're we're focused on developing citizens of character. So a little bit more into to what that means. Right? So we're working with students to take on leadership, to be responsible, to have accountability, to be dependable.
Guest:These are things that they're gonna need, whether they join the military, whether they go to college, or whether they get a job working after high school. They need those things. Right? So, we want our students to be productive members of whatever society it is that they choose to join. So our program, we pride ourselves on having a safe, inclusive program where everyone can contribute to to what, you know, we're trying to accomplish.
Jerry Tabbatt:Tyler, sitting here today, people are gonna be watching this interview, and they're saying, wow. That's our future leaders. Does that scare you to know that you're being looked up to as a future leader in this great country of ours?
Guest:Not at all, sir.
Jerry Tabbatt:Why?
Guest:Because of this program. If you would have sat me down 4 years ago today and told me to do this interview, I would have been terrified. Mhmm. But that's not the case anymore.
Jerry Tabbatt:You got the greatest smile. You're gonna do good. What about you, Arianna? Are you afraid about the the leadership responsibilities that are coming? Because yours are coming faster than you realize, and you're gonna have some things you're gonna have to do once you get to the basement.
Guest:No, sir. I'm not scared at all because I want people to be able to look up to me and be, comfortable coming to me if they need anything, need help doing, or need help with anything. Like, I'm not scared. Like, Tyler said, if you came to me, like, even last year, I would be too scared to do this. Like, no, sir.
Guest:I can't come. I'm too scared. But right now, I feel like I've been exposed enough to the public and to my leadership roles that I am very comfortable with anybody coming up to me asking me how do I do this, how do I do that.
Jerry Tabbatt:Now, of course, you've got your family support, but once you get into the service, you're gonna have your Air Force family. What do you think is the main difference gonna be between your Air Force family and your immediate family here at home?
Guest:For my immediate family here, my family here want me to be safe as I can. They don't want me to do, like, big jobs, dangerous jobs. But my air force family, I believe that if they feel like I can do it, even if it's a dangerous job, they will encourage me to do it, but make sure I'm at the safest point possible.
Guest:Tyler?
Guest:I think that the difference is it's all in camaraderie. I think that the opinions on what you're doing change because of the the the context. Like, my my family at home, at first they they didn't want me to join the military. They would have rather I stayed just a commercial engineer or something. Mhmm.
Guest:But over time, they eventually accepted that I'm not changing my mind. Air Force is for me.
Jerry Tabbatt:I am so proud of both of you. We're getting short on time here, so it's time to start wrapping this up. I'm a start with you, Arianna. Your final thoughts?
Guest:My final thoughts is I'm very comfortable in what I'm doing. I'm excited to make this next step in my life, in my career, and I just can't wait to see where it brings
Jerry Tabbatt:me. Tyler?
Guest:I'm I'm very proud of myself, Ari, and all the other cadets that each and every day, we get up and we go to this class with a smile on our face, and that is that's thanks to our amazing instructors and the leaders that they've developed in each of us. I think that this program is amazing, and it's done wonderful things for me, and I think that it can help anybody.
Jerry Tabbatt:Chief, I mean, you've got 2 young adults here that are not gonna have a bit of difficulty when they get into active duty themselves. And by the way, I want both of you to keep in contact with me. I gave you my card and everything. So when you get the basic training or something, you wanna talk to somebody, just give me a holler. Okay?
Jerry Tabbatt:Tyler, you I work very closely with pilots, so you too. But but, chief, what what's your final thoughts on what we heard today from these 2 young people, the ROTC program itself, and what can we look forward to?
Guest:Well, I you know, amazing young adults. Right? And I'm very proud of them. Majors, very proud of them, and all of our cadets, especially the ones who kinda take a chance and say, hey. Let me see what this JROTC thing is all about because that's where it all starts with them taking a chance.
Guest:And then they they fell in. They found their their crowd. And I think that ROTC is so important because it teaches, you know, all those social skills that they're gonna need Right. Regardless of of where they end up going and what they wanna do with their future. And, you know, it it it's it's just a a great program, at Rutherford High School, and I'm I'm blessed to be a part of it and to be around these kids each day.
Guest:So, you're gonna continue to see us,
Jerry Tabbatt:up in the community
Guest:and and and keep keep doing that thing. So, we look forward to
Jerry Tabbatt:Thank you both for coming in here today, Ariana and, and Tyler. I'm so proud of both of you, and I know you're gonna do a good job in the air force itself no matter which career you choose. You may be able to change your mind once you get there. Chief, thank you for taking care of these young men and women like that. I can see, and I'm sure the community can see, how good a job you've done.
Jerry Tabbatt:Thanks to all 3 of you, and best of luck. That'll do it for this edition of our military community. Time goes by fast. We'll see you next week with a brand new edition of our military community. I'm Jerry Tabbott.
Jerry Tabbatt:Have a great day.
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